As I glanced through my Google News Feed this morning, I came across this article reporting on a series of stings in Memphis, Tennessee in which various beer purveyors were set up in a sting by police, and cited for various infractions, namely selling beer without asking for ID. In all, such stings as this has yielded 73 arrests in 2010 for the county of Shelby from these “raids.”
Reading the article made my blood boil a bit. Why?
I too, was set up by Christian County, MO police in a similar raid some years ago. First allow me to tell my story, and then set up the illogical nature of these raids.
I was working as bar tender at a Ruby Tuesday on a VERY busy night. I had no time to converse with my customers and was slinging drinks at a furious pace. This is great for the patrons…in a rush I tend to over-pour. In walked a young, attractive girl who orders something retarded like a Midouri Sour. She ordered the drink in a flirtatious manner. Even though I’m busy, I say, “No problem…let me see your ID.” She rummages through her purse and then states, “I must have left it at home.” I reply, “Sorry, I cant serve you ten.” She says, “Pleaaaase!” “Sorry, I can’t,” I reply.
After she leaves a dude with a mustache comes up to the bar and asks for my manager. I run and grab my manager. They talk in a corner, and then holler for me to come over. The with the mustache explains that He was an undercover cop and had just set me up. He said, “Congratulations, you passed the test. Had you not, you’d be in cuffs right now.”
Even though I “Passed the test” I wasn’t happy. Here I am a college student, father of two, slinging drinks to provide for my family, and this guy set me up with the intent that if I failed I go to jail? What if I’d failed? Even though I’m a law abiding citizen, it would be EASY to forget to ask for an ID form someone that looked of age when your getting slammed on a Saturday night. The more I thought about it, the more I got wrong. Here’s why.
The whole scenario of a “set up” seems to fit into the logical fallacy of Tu Quoque: Two Wrongs Make a Right. The problem is that the law officials are CREATING a crime to be solved. In my five years of bar-tending, that was the ONLY time that I ever had to decline a drink for lack of authentic age identification. The problem did not exist until an underage girl (isn’t a crime on the behalf of the the underage purchaser as well?) was sent in by cop–whose job it is to stop crime–to create a crime in a place where there was no history of delinquency in the area of serving in minors, in order to hopefully arrest me, the innocent bartender.
Two wrongs make a right fallacy (or even the ends justify the means): 1) Serving an Alcohol to a minor is WRONG. 2) The crime DID NOT exist until created by the police. They created evil to fill a non existent void. WRONG 3) Intended result? Get a POTENTIAL lawbreaker off the streets before he messes up for real. Do the ends justify the means? Do two wrongs make a right? Regardless of whether the logic stands, the ethical nature of the sting is questionable.
Shoot, with that logic we should just exterminate our race since we as humans all have a potential for evil.
For the record, a few months after my incident, a bartender in training who was getting his rear handed to him on an extremely busy night served beer to a minor who was a part of a sting, even after we (I) passed the first test. I personally knew the guy. He was prude. He just was so busy he lost his head and barely made eye contact with the pawn asking for the beer. He got fired that night, went to jail ,had to pay lawyers and fines, and ended up having to drop out of college.
Does it make sense to create a crime in order to solve it?
What are your thoughts on the subject?
What I can say about our alcohol laws is this…there is far far far too much regulation on every aspect of the process. This is, in part, another gift of prohibition and a tax hungry government. Not that I’m against certain regulatory practices and taxation. However, I’ve been looking at the TTB website and it’s crazy how much material there is. I think some laws need to be simplified and flat out changed. Part of the reason some of these busts happen is that people just don’t know the law (or one small subcategory). Really, you need a lawyer to sift through all the stuff. Our laws should not have to require specialization to understand. They should be accessible and encourage the freedom of the people rather than “catching them” in the act.
This is a little vent for me.
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THFBeer_nate Reply:
July 27th, 2010 at 9:38 am
Rant on Buddy! Yes, alcohol is micromanaged by the powers that be…the power of prudish lobbying prior and post prohibition. It stinks. by the way, have you noticed I added the “Reply” feature to the comments here?
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Same thing happens in Baltimore. They use the underage police cadets, send them in and see if they get served. Just wrong.
I hate how they abuse the situation just to “prove a point”. In the mean time, ruin people’s lives.
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THFBeer_nate Reply:
July 27th, 2010 at 11:33 am
That’s exactly how I see it. I would have no problem with a cop get involved if he was on the beat and saw a minor get served beer…it’s the entrapment that bothers me.
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The notion of the bust rubs me the wrong way. I haven’t been able to put my finger on it, but you’ve touched upon it, Nate. There’s something rotten about it.
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THFBeer_nate Reply:
July 27th, 2010 at 12:30 pm
If there was an underground bar that gained notoriety for serving beer to 16 year olds (blatantly breaking the law), and cops sat outside and watched a teen go in and get served a beer, I wouldn’t have any issues with that. But when the police send in the teen, especially to a restaurant that has never been known to violate the police and attempt to elicit an arrest from a very busy bartender, that’s wrong. Note in my story after I refused the girl she batted her eyelashes and said, “Pleeease.” She was trained to try and lure normal non-law-breaking citizens into committing a crime. Sheesh. Waste of taxdollars when the cops are trying to make crime, not eliminate it.
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These busts are pointless because they’re not catching the people they’re supposed to be. I spent a few of my teen years in suburban Detroit where there are “party stores” on every corner, all licensed to sell carry-out beer. Most of these stores didn’t care how old you were, as long as you had money to spend. I was in my local party store one night when the cops were making the rounds doing these stupid stings. The guy says to me “watch this” as the underage buyer walked in the door. He went through all of the motions of asking for ID and telling her (notice it’s almost always a her) he was sorry but he couldn’t serve her. She left and got into a car where the cop running the sting was waiting, and they drove away. I asked him how he knew it was a cop, and he told me the guy who runs the party store down the street called him 15 minutes ago. He then told me I’d have to come back later if I wanted to buy beer, because they usually hang around for a while. Did this do anything to stop people who intentionally sell beer to minors? The people who know they’re doing something wrong are never going to get caught up in this, just the innocents who make mistakes.
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THFBeer_nate Reply:
July 28th, 2010 at 8:55 am
Great story Howard. I didn’t know you spent time in Detroit…the place has really dived. Yeah I’m with you, the pros who sell beer illegally intentionally get away with it because they know what to look for. The Cops should just pull aside a kid leaving a joint like that and ask for his ID, then but the store, not stage the crime.
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I wish Cops were being this ingenious to solve real crime. Like Murders, rapes, armed robbery. Maybe if the “vice” squad would be “reassigned” to places where real crime occurs, society would be better served.
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THFBeer_nate Reply:
July 28th, 2010 at 9:14 am
I’m with you Don. The sting isn’t even necessary in ‘real’ crime…just takes opening ones eyes.
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I don’t like the setup one bit. If it is witnessed happening in reality then great, fine the place or whatever – but to send in a decoy and go out of the way to make the person screw up just seems wrong.
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Yes, the alcohol laws in this country are tea-totally retarded. I live in Kansas where grocery stores can’t carry anything over %3.2 beer and sales are restricted on Sundays to 12 noon -7pm. I can’t go buy beer until the friggin game has already started. WTF!
Oh and “Pleeease” break the law. Come on! “Pleaaase” Man that pisses me off. Sounds like some jerk off trying to prove he deserves to wear a badge. “Look at all the i̶n̶n̶o̶c̶e̶n̶t̶ ̶p̶e̶o̶p̶l̶e̶ I mean bad guys I’ve s̶e̶t̶ ̶u̶p̶ err busted.. I’m a̶ ̶t̶o̶o̶l̶ ̶I̶’̶m̶ ̶a̶ ̶t̶o̶o̶l̶ ̶I̶’̶m̶ ̶a̶ ̶t̶o̶o̶l̶ ̶t̶o̶o̶l̶ ̶t̶o̶o̶l̶ a hero!”
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