Being that it’s football season now, thankheavenforbeer.com will do its part to add to the collective world of beer and football. My wife and I are pretty big Colts fans. Since we live in California now, we find it difficult to be able to watch a Colts game on t.v. We have come to the conclusion that our watching must be done in a sports bar. So, we made the 15 minute drive to sit down, have a beer, and watch the game. The beer choices at these sports bars are deplorably weak. Sure, you have Guinness, Newcastle, and Stella, but those are everywhere.
A lot could be said in the way of social commentary. Are football fans lovers of bad beer? Are the endless Bud Light, Coors Light, and Miller Light Hypnopaedic therapy that acts to “Pavlov” people into drinking those beers? Who knows? Conditioning aside, it seems that sports bars believe this must be the case because they serve a lot of cheap beer. However, it is interesting how interlocked beer is with sports and enjoyment in general. That is actually an aside and a complaint that is subsidiary to what I really want to say.
As I sat watching so many games all around me, I thought of what I believe is a good analogy to speak about beer and football. (Because I’m always wondering why people persist in drinking Bud and the like, I’m always thinking about it…who knew a small epiphany would come from football?) There are all types of fans who watch the game, just like all types of beer fans. You have the generational brand loyalty fans. Example: My granddad was a Packers fan, my dad was a Packers fan, and by God I’m going to be one, too. These types of fans have attached their like for a team not on the team itself. Instead, they have attached to the team because of another emotional connection. It may even be the case that they actually know nil about the team or football at all. In my mind, this is one type of beer fan, too. These people keep drinking this one because they have essentially inherited it from another person. They’ve long since (if ever) ceased to think about the beer, its taste (or lack thereof), or the quality. They like the feeling attached to the product.
My second example is the fair weather fan. We all know this guy! No, I’m a Lakers fan now. Whoever the champion is or if “his” team is doing well dictates his choice as a fan. As long as things go on swimmingly, this person is a fan. They don’t want to experience the bitterness of defeat. Drink-ability! That is what came to mind when I thought of this analogy. Nothing offensive, bitter, or harsh in the way of experience is acceptable. These “fans” want the smooth road. The funny thing about these types of fans or beer drinkers is that they will never really experience the real highs of winning nor the bitter taste of defeat–both are indispensable because they define each other. These people will never taste a really good beer nor a really bad beer (although I might dispute my own statement about the bad beer part). They will only be driven by the gold medal winner in the American Light Lager category or the “King of Beers.”
Next is the semi-knowledgeable fan. These people are there trying to watch the game, learn a little more, but very slowly. The know a few of the players beyond the biggest star, but even those players are stars in their own right. He or she might know some football terms but doesn’t want to get carried away. This type of fan will pretty much stick with that slow learning process and stay pretty narrowed in learning. The type of beer drinker that this person might be drinks what is served at the sports bar, so they’ve had most of the other beers, know a little about them, and enjoy them. However, they don’t plan on going out to try more beers, learn a few more facts, or learn the more intricate things. “Let’s see, I’ve had Stella, Guinness, Bud, Rolling Rock, Newcastle and a few others,” these people might say when asked what beers they’ve had. Most people and fans, I think, fall into these three categories.
After this comes the pseudo-knowledge fan, the most annoying of all. This guy knows all the names of the players, infractions, and has a working knowledge of how the game works (but on basic level). He has heard Dan Marino say something and absorbed it. In fact, he has picked up snippets here and there, using them every chance he can. The phrases and ideas are out of context, the knowledge is extremely partial, and the insistence on his point is embarrassingly foolish. This is also the loudest guy in the sports bar. As a beer drinker, he has had all the ones in this pub (he proudly announces that). I’ve also tried x, y, and Z. He then proceeds to brag about the one beer-fest he went to, all the while insisting that some beer is the best one you can find. When you do chime in on some minor point, he proceeds to tell you why you are wrong…of course, he is speaking from his posterior at this point. This guy is the bane of my existence.
Here is the well-informed fan. Of course he likes a team or two, but he really is interested in the game and goes for all the knowledge that he can. This guy can be good or bad. On the one hand he might explain why this or that team runs cover two on a play. That is good if you want to hear it. It is not so good if you don’t want to know it or already do. This person can also actually want to be helpful or just show off. His knowledge really is pretty thorough but incomplete. He might know some analysis but only because he is repeating. The one point at which this fellow lacks is creativity and critical ability. What would he drink? I think this type of person would go to beer fests, look for everything he can, and base choices on what some “experts” have said.
Then you have the fantasy league, stat knowing, bonafide football geek. Normally, he/she means very well and does know quite a bit about football, to the point of neurosis. ”Here is where the coverage broke down,” these people might say. Were they born with this knowledge? No! They cultivated it, thought about it, dwelled on it. Sure they have team preferences, but they appreciate the game because it is one full of intricacies. In fact, they aspire to be at least on par with the analysts. Beer geek anyone? I could have almost used the above words interchangeably for both people (with the exception of a few terms). The beer geek is always looking to learn, well-informed, and aspiring to the heights of the late Michael Jackson (the cool beer guy, not the pop star…I was nice on this one by only calling him the pop star). Knowing the intricacies of the beer game, the beer geek knows a bad call when he sees one…maybe a Bud Light audible is not the right call.
I could go on but my point is this: There are actual fans of the game and there are casual ones. I’d like to see more informed “fans.” What type of fan are you? Are you doing your part to convert casual fans of the game? Bring them something good.
***I know that I could have included more groups, details, and comparisons, but I didn’t want this to become convoluted. That’s the beauty of analogy: it’s not the same thing as what it describes, so it doesn’t have to be perfect.***
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I agree with every word you spoke. Did’nt Jesus say a prophet has no honor in his hometown? (I could not find the verse I was looking for) but I believe I read it, my point, I’ve only seen your own mother drinking Bud.
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I’ve seen my mother drink quite a bit of other stuff. I used to force into trying new stuff (well, I’d really beg her to try it). After a while, she really liked my Oatmeal Stout. There is actually a little more than meets the eye. She would at least try it, while others stuck to the same old stuff. This “prophet” (if that is the meaning you are getting at) actually had a little honor in his home town.
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Being a “football geek” myself I somewhat take offense to this rambling. Did it ever cross your mind that the fan that his/her father/grandfather was a loyal fan of a particular team may actually know more than the average person? This person may have grown up with both teaching them the intricacies of the game.
You categorize people like you know everything about everyone and they are all not as informed as you are.
While I agree with trying different beers and forming your own opinion, you lost sight of the fact that people drink what they like to drink. The fact is some may actually like to have a Stella, and the bar is in it for a profit so they will carry main stream beers.
Here is a thought right up your alley.
Matt 7:2-5 For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged.
You need to relax and let people drink what they like to drink. These people are not stupid or conditioned. They are fans of the game and like to drink beer. If the sports bar is not up to your “beer geek” status then don’t go! Get NFL Sunday ticket and you can sip your beer, swirl it around, comment on the floral arrangement and how you can taste friggen pine nuts without pouting at the bar because they don’t have your $15 bottle of obscure beer. The rest of the bar just wants to have a good time, drink beer with friends and watch the game.
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@Skins fan. That’s not was I was saying at all. Generational team loyalty is great! My mom is a Colts fan and so am I. What I getting at was that if it is based on nothing else and you never learn anything about the game, then that is the problem. So, we actually have no problem there. Personally, I think your misunderstanding on this point framed the rest of what you said.
I categorized for the purpose of analogy and noted that the analogy wasn’t complete. So, was actually have no problem there.
Sometimes people drink what they drink because they don’t know anything else. Why? Because they simply don’t branch out. I don’t know any mainstream beer drinkers that have consistently branched out to try other stuff and still like the mainstream.
If you’re going to quote scripture to me, at least don’t do damage to the text. Are you saying that other beer drinkers will judge me? Or are you seriously insinuating that God will judge me based on my beer views and analogy? The first is not of great concern to me and the second is entirely non-sensical. Also, please read the text again, as it deals with hypocritical judgment (does part of the plank in the eye mean anything to you). I’m not “judging” people for drinking bad beer and then doing the same thing. Either way, your concept of judgment is internalized, humanistic, and simply not what Matthew is talking about. In addition, if what you said about Matthew was true, then you would be just as guilty as me…the text can’t only mean what you want it to.
Be that as it may, I didn’t know you knew I always wanted a $15 bottle of obscure beer. I didn’t pout. I did order what I thought was the best beer. In fact, try reading another post that I wrote right before this about drinking the classics. I’d also like to note that I don’t think Stella is bad…just that it is everywhere. READ WHAT I’M ACTUALLY SAYING and quite injecting something I’ve never said. Furthermore, I didn’t stop anybody from drinking what they wanted. You say it like I operated cloak and dagger, stabbed them, and forced them to drink something else. I said nothing to anyone about their beer choices and upset no one at the bar, so don’t worry about defend those people I haven’t attacked. If you mean to defend them because I attacked them on my website; rest assured that it was not a personal attack bent on a particular person. Were these your friends or something?
I didn’t say they were stupid…but I do believe they are conditioned (or at least the exposure to three beers has restricted their views on the matter). You’re right if the bar is not up to my “beer geek” status I don’t have to go. It’s a little bit like the content on my site that way. I’ll let you work that out for yourself.
As a message to everybody who reads this site: My views actually point more toward American beer culture in general, this was only one example. A loose analogy. I don’t know if this fellow thought I was pointing him out specifically, but I wasn’t. I was only making an analogy. Hyperbole? Probably. But did I think it would result in hurting someone’s feelings? No! I try hard to never be malicious…unless I get someone who responds that way to me.
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So, I’m watching the Bears-Steelers game today, and lo and behold, Bud has a new beer out… <a href=”https://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/29/51464″Bud Light Golden Wheat. I wonder if they still use rice in the brew for this…
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I know that they have a 55 calorie beer coming out.
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I thought about my above response to skinzfan. I want to say that this is a reminder that I need to be less polemical at times…so, let’s agree that beer and football are still great together. Sorry if anyone got too upset.
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Beer and football ARE great together, and the reason is less about the beer or even the teams but the bonding and shared experience between friends and family.
If I go to a friend’s house to watch a game with a few friends and all that is there is Bud – sure I’ll wish that it wasn’t, but I’ll still drink it and enjoy the moment with the group (while making note to bring something different to share next time!)
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So as football and beer are very much intertwined, I fall into different categories. As it relates to beer, I’m somewhere approaching fantasy-league status. As for football, well, I’m a generational brand loyalty guy. The Cowboys have always been my team, and always will be. That doesn’t mean I don’t like the teams that play the Giants, the Eagles, the Redskins or the +*%^^&%$ Steelers, but I’ve been a Cowboys fan since I was a wee tot, even when they went 1-15.
My sports geekiness, though, does begin to approach fantasy-league status when we begin discussing another sort of football: Association Football. I’ve played the game since I was 5. I’ve been a referee and a lineman. I know the rules quite well (in fact I was an active referee when FIFA brought about the newest change in rules). I know the names of some players, but I don’t get the opportunity to follow the game much due to its low popularity here in the States. But, it is a game that provides an atmosphere, much like football, amenable to consuming beer. Prost!
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I am equally crazy for football and beer. And in both cases, I’m always learning new things and getting deeper and deeper into it. As far as football goes, I send folks for profootballtalk.com and let Mike Florio school them up.
As far as beer goes, I have a handful of “gateway” breweries I turn folks on to, like Troegs or Long Trail, that make a selection of well-crafted beers that won’t scare off the casual fan with big-character brews. I’ll let them work their way up to Victory or Dogfish Head once they realize there’s more than Stella out there!
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People mention Stella to me all the time. I tell them they should try Duvel or another Belgian if they like Artois.
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@ beer_scientist: When people tell me they like Belgian beer and reference Stella, I always cringe a little bit on the inside. It’s a bit of a leap from Stella to Duvel, but I do the same thing and point them to a more potent and satisfying Belgian. I usually go with a Chimay Red. If they like it, there’s hope for them!
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I have found and just reviewed the Bud Light Golden Wheat on Manland. Check it out at:
https://manland.ning.com/forum/topics/beer-review-bud-light-golden
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Will do, buddy!
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@Jim. That’s an interesting take. I think that Duvel is certainly less of a push than Chimay…but both are much more interesting than Stella.
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Skinzfan… Being a “football geek” … and knowing the slightest thing about beer, you would understand the analogy. You would see that Mike is simply comparing a person’s love and understanding of beer with that someone who appreciates football on the same level. People appreciate beer on different levels, just as people do with football, which comes from different experiences and surroundings. This appreciation of the beer (relative to being a football geek), or sport, comes from a deep understanding of the mechanics behind it all and what kind of work goes into achieving specific result.
Realizing your team wins because they score more points than the opposition isn’t the same as understanding what match-ups to exploit in order to get those points. Or knowing the soft-spots in a zone coverage that allow you to get first downs. Or why a zone blocking scheme can help you to run the ball if your offensive line is undersized relative to the defensive line. Playing madden 6 hours a day doesn’t make you a “football geek”…. take the football out of that equation.
By the way, the Redskins are the 2nd worse team in the NFL. The only NFL team that is worse…the Browns. When is your boy Daniel Snyder going to learn how to construct a football team?
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SkinzFan: Wow, as a Dallas Cowboys fan i should hate you, but there is 100% truth in what you posted. I respect you 100% even though i hate your team. lol. Lets have a beer and talk some smack. Sounds like a good time to me. Best post ive read in a long time.
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Thanks for your interaction on the site. As you can tell, we have a heated discussion now and again. We’ve e-mailed back and forth several times in between this post and now have an understanding of each other. I think no one is mad anymore. Thanks for the compliment on the post. You are welcome back anytime. I hope we post some other stuff that interests you.
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I choose my football teams the way I choose my beer–by the taste they leave in my mouth after I swallow. Oops! Did I say that? Tee-hee-hee-hee!
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@Jane. Well, that’s one way to look at it. I think the beer part is definitely right…go for taste.
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