Comments on: Roger Protz Gets it Wrong: An Argument of Assumptions and Insult http://thankheavenforbeer.com/2009/12/03/roger-protz-gets-it-wrong-an-argument-of-assumptions-and-insult/ We love beer, we thank heaven. Begrudgingly, we admit we are not the authority on all things "beer," but we know our fair share. Enjoy the good brew with us; correct us where we're wrong. Sun, 01 Aug 2010 05:15:03 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Great... 55% Beer | Thank Heaven for Beer http://thankheavenforbeer.com/2009/12/03/roger-protz-gets-it-wrong-an-argument-of-assumptions-and-insult/comment-page-1/#comment-238386 Great... 55% Beer | Thank Heaven for Beer Fri, 23 Jul 2010 00:51:37 +0000 http://thankheavenforbeer.com/?p=3810#comment-238386 [...] defending BrewDog achievements of making a 32% and a 41% beer, I have to defend the creation of a  55% beer [...] [...] defending BrewDog achievements of making a 32% and a 41% beer, I have to defend the creation of a  55% beer [...]

]]> By: 32% Beer to Hit Shelves in US | Thank Heaven for Beer http://thankheavenforbeer.com/2009/12/03/roger-protz-gets-it-wrong-an-argument-of-assumptions-and-insult/comment-page-1/#comment-165399 32% Beer to Hit Shelves in US | Thank Heaven for Beer Fri, 16 Apr 2010 21:34:44 +0000 http://thankheavenforbeer.com/?p=3810#comment-165399 [...] the shelves in the U.S. and thought about some of the stuff that was said in that video (of course, we’ve covered it a couple times from other angles).  That is the topic about which I wish to [...] [...] the shelves in the U.S. and thought about some of the stuff that was said in that video (of course, we’ve covered it a couple times from other angles).  That is the topic about which I wish to [...]

]]> By: Sink the Bismark: Craftbeer Wars? | Thank Heaven for Beer http://thankheavenforbeer.com/2009/12/03/roger-protz-gets-it-wrong-an-argument-of-assumptions-and-insult/comment-page-1/#comment-127048 Sink the Bismark: Craftbeer Wars? | Thank Heaven for Beer Tue, 16 Feb 2010 18:29:56 +0000 http://thankheavenforbeer.com/?p=3810#comment-127048 [...] Stout; however, in mind was not highly elevated alcohol, but rather a unique flavor.  In fact, Mike defended Tactical Nuclear Penguin, and I agreed with every word he said.  I uphold Brew Dog as brewery that makes fantastic beer, [...] [...] Stout; however, in mind was not highly elevated alcohol, but rather a unique flavor.  In fact, Mike defended Tactical Nuclear Penguin, and I agreed with every word he said.  I uphold Brew Dog as brewery that makes fantastic beer, [...]

]]> By: Tactical Nuclear Penguin http://thankheavenforbeer.com/2009/12/03/roger-protz-gets-it-wrong-an-argument-of-assumptions-and-insult/comment-page-1/#comment-79947 Tactical Nuclear Penguin Tue, 22 Dec 2009 17:25:17 +0000 http://thankheavenforbeer.com/?p=3810#comment-79947 [...] Read more about it here and here and here. [...] [...] Read more about it here and here and here. [...]

]]> By: Beer at Joe’s — Have a beer with Joe and Jasmine http://thankheavenforbeer.com/2009/12/03/roger-protz-gets-it-wrong-an-argument-of-assumptions-and-insult/comment-page-1/#comment-79946 Beer at Joe’s — Have a beer with Joe and Jasmine Tue, 22 Dec 2009 17:24:20 +0000 http://thankheavenforbeer.com/?p=3810#comment-79946 [...] Read more about it here and here and here. [...] [...] Read more about it here and here and here. [...]

]]> By: beer_scientist http://thankheavenforbeer.com/2009/12/03/roger-protz-gets-it-wrong-an-argument-of-assumptions-and-insult/comment-page-1/#comment-71687 beer_scientist Thu, 10 Dec 2009 19:29:47 +0000 http://thankheavenforbeer.com/?p=3810#comment-71687 You are lucky. I've pretty much begged for this beer. I'm still holding out for Brew Dog to magnanimously send me a bottle. Anyway, I'm happy to write about this; Protz should have known better than to judge a book by its cover. You are lucky. I’ve pretty much begged for this beer. I’m still holding out for Brew Dog to magnanimously send me a bottle. Anyway, I’m happy to write about this; Protz should have known better than to judge a book by its cover.

]]> By: The Times They Are A Changin' | Thank Heaven for Beer http://thankheavenforbeer.com/2009/12/03/roger-protz-gets-it-wrong-an-argument-of-assumptions-and-insult/comment-page-1/#comment-71648 The Times They Are A Changin' | Thank Heaven for Beer Thu, 10 Dec 2009 18:20:11 +0000 http://thankheavenforbeer.com/?p=3810#comment-71648 [...] myriad of neo-prohibitionist organizations, alcohol laws, and recent events are a testimony to this statement.  In fact, my son recently told me that he told his friends at [...] [...] myriad of neo-prohibitionist organizations, alcohol laws, and recent events are a testimony to this statement.  In fact, my son recently told me that he told his friends at [...]

]]> By: Tim Ratzlaff http://thankheavenforbeer.com/2009/12/03/roger-protz-gets-it-wrong-an-argument-of-assumptions-and-insult/comment-page-1/#comment-70670 Tim Ratzlaff Wed, 09 Dec 2009 12:56:30 +0000 http://thankheavenforbeer.com/?p=3810#comment-70670 I was lucky enough to get a sample of this beer and I must say that it was interesting. Unfortunately I only got enough to give my tongue several coatings among a loud crowded room that was not the best for tasting beer. The smokiness of their stout was amplified and most people simply proclaimed it tasted like some sort of smoked meat and alcohol. Thanks for taking the time to think about these issues before you quickly brushed it off as all marketing and hype without some sense of content. I was lucky enough to get a sample of this beer and I must say that it was interesting. Unfortunately I only got enough to give my tongue several coatings among a loud crowded room that was not the best for tasting beer. The smokiness of their stout was amplified and most people simply proclaimed it tasted like some sort of smoked meat and alcohol.

Thanks for taking the time to think about these issues before you quickly brushed it off as all marketing and hype without some sense of content.

]]> By: beer_scientist http://thankheavenforbeer.com/2009/12/03/roger-protz-gets-it-wrong-an-argument-of-assumptions-and-insult/comment-page-1/#comment-69396 beer_scientist Mon, 07 Dec 2009 19:23:53 +0000 http://thankheavenforbeer.com/?p=3810#comment-69396 Thanks for the "insider" track on this stuff. As I freely admitted, I don't know a lot about the UK situation. I have to say that it seems things are changing for the better on the beer front; at least I hope they are. I think it's a bit like the US 15-20 years ago. The large breweries were still the ubiquitous catchall for drinkers and craft really hadn't come into its own the way it has now. People were simply content to drink that stuff and not adventurous at all. I'm hoping things go the same way for the UK. Thanks for the “insider” track on this stuff. As I freely admitted, I don’t know a lot about the UK situation. I have to say that it seems things are changing for the better on the beer front; at least I hope they are. I think it’s a bit like the US 15-20 years ago. The large breweries were still the ubiquitous catchall for drinkers and craft really hadn’t come into its own the way it has now. People were simply content to drink that stuff and not adventurous at all. I’m hoping things go the same way for the UK.

]]> By: Zythophile http://thankheavenforbeer.com/2009/12/03/roger-protz-gets-it-wrong-an-argument-of-assumptions-and-insult/comment-page-1/#comment-68835 Zythophile Sun, 06 Dec 2009 20:35:41 +0000 http://thankheavenforbeer.com/?p=3810#comment-68835 Well, one of the problems with the UK microbrewery scene is that, although there are some 700 small breweries now, they're generally pretty much producing the same stuff: a couple of bitters, a mild, a "summer" blonde ale, maybe a porter or stout. Nothing at all, generally, outside the British tradition, and very little that's in any way radical. This is in large part because the UK scene is so heavily biased towards cask/draught ale, and the UK consumer just is not, it appears, adventurous to try anything out of the usual. So if the drinkers in the pub won't drink the more unusual beers, the pub landlords won't buy it and it's not worth the little brewers trying to brew it because they can't sell it. BrewDog produces very little cask beer, it's much more like an American micro in that its market is largely in bottles. It's less reliant, therefore, on the deep conservatism of the average British pub drinker. Similarly Meantime, a brewery I admire deeply, is able to produce great bottled beers. (Another problem is that the UK drinks store scene is an oligopoly, but this post is quite long enough already.) Well, one of the problems with the UK microbrewery scene is that, although there are some 700 small breweries now, they’re generally pretty much producing the same stuff: a couple of bitters, a mild, a “summer” blonde ale, maybe a porter or stout. Nothing at all, generally, outside the British tradition, and very little that’s in any way radical. This is in large part because the UK scene is so heavily biased towards cask/draught ale, and the UK consumer just is not, it appears, adventurous to try anything out of the usual. So if the drinkers in the pub won’t drink the more unusual beers, the pub landlords won’t buy it and it’s not worth the little brewers trying to brew it because they can’t sell it. BrewDog produces very little cask beer, it’s much more like an American micro in that its market is largely in bottles. It’s less reliant, therefore, on the deep conservatism of the average British pub drinker. Similarly Meantime, a brewery I admire deeply, is able to produce great bottled beers. (Another problem is that the UK drinks store scene is an oligopoly, but this post is quite long enough already.)

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