Beer geek. Beer nerd. Beer nut. Beer enthusiast. Beer connoisseur. Beer expert. Beer snob.
There are practically as many designations (many self given) for the beer carouser of discriminate taste as there are beer styles. Some approach such labeling with contempt; others with open arms. But perhaps an less oft discussed designation is the the “Beer Know it All.” We all remember the know it all in second grade. He/She jumped at the opportunity to lavish his/her unsolicited wisdom upon you, and quite often that wisdom was incorrect.
I stumbled upon “the beer know it all” the other day. The store had a fairly decent selection of beer. As I was admiring it I noticed a woman with a list in her hand. She looked confused, but I didn’t want to impose my knoledge upon her, uncertain that she actually needed any help. I’d rather the vast beer knowledge in my temple be solicited.
A man stocking the beer cooler walked by and she asked him for help finding “filtered wheat beer” for her husband. His response, laced with confidence, gave me a chuckle and bears repeating:
Uh, yeah, we don’t have any filtered wheat beer. (actually they did, which I pointed out to the lady later: New Belgium Sunshine)
We have some unfiltered wheat (here he points out Boulevard’s Unfiltered Wheat) but you wouldn’t want it any way. Unfitered wheat is cloudy (correct!) and very sticky…in fact, I can’t even swallow the stuff…it’s too sweet…they didn’t filter out the sugar. (say waht?!?!)
He pauses, the woman looks perplexed and she asks for a suitable substitute.
Hmmm…you should probably go with an IPA…they were made for war and shit (he really did say “and shit” but at least he sounded like he might get this one right). They made these beers more bitter ’cause they had to ship them farther. They put extra yeast in the bottle, so by the time the beer got to the soldiers it was really alcoholic. If you buy and IPA and let it sit for a few years, it will become really alcoholic…I know…I’ve done it (were did he get that from? He then lets his mischeivious “yeah I got drunk…REALLY drunk” grin out of the cage)
He began carrying on more, but I tuned it out. All said and done though, it was interesting and humorous. Odds are, at some point in time, I have been that guy. I try to be informed when entering into any conversation, but I know I’ve gaffed. I don’t recount the story to ridicule the guy or to try and elevate myself as being more informed, rather to point out that in a world full of know-it-alls, you cannot take for granted that what you are reading/listening to is legit, especially here on the interweb, a special place full of “experts.” I bet that lady explain to her friend he new found knowledge of IPAs and perpetuates the error unaware.
Have you run into any “beer know it alls” lately? Oh, by the way, I bet you didn’t know that Trappist Beers are called “Trappist” because the monks brewed the beer to lure drunks into caged traps where they would then practice necromancy on them. It’s true. Trust me. I’m an expert.
Those crazy Cistercians…
Fortunately, I’ve not run into “that guy” before.
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nate Reply:
August 26th, 2010 at 8:06 am
I’m willing to admit seven years ago when I was an Oh-So-Knowledgeable bartender I may have been “that guy” at times.
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Big Tex Reply:
August 26th, 2010 at 12:27 pm
I might have been perceived in that way… but I’ve always tended to be gracious at corrections. I admit my knowledge is not perfect, and that I have much to learn. I’ve been wrong before… wouldn’t be surprised if it happened again. I’ve also waited until asked before offering my advice.
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Wow, I never knew that about the traps and monks.
I have the “beer geek” tag on my when I am around my friends. They love beer, but do not take it to the next level that I do. But many times I look at them and just say, “I don’t know” instead of taking a wild guess, or even an educated guess.
But as my home beer bar is a mini mecca of beer in the area, you get way too many know it alls in the bar. And they have no problem telling you what is what, and they are always right. I accept it with a smile on my face.
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nate Reply:
August 26th, 2010 at 8:08 am
That’s what I do….accept it with a smile. I ran into another ‘know it all” at a beer tasting at a little bodega in town a few nights ago. She was so full mis-information. But I didn’t bother correct her…just said thank you for the free beer.
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I see it all the time, and it is funny but unfortunately they do more damage than good.
I think its odd that sometimes, when people either know or find out that I have a ‘beer blog’ they treat me like some kind of beer expert. (Even people who know far more than I do.) For people to consider me a beer expert just goes to show how little they know!
I tend to take the same approach as you do Nate, I don’t offer unsolicited beer advice. OTOH, I do enjoy the people who come up to me offering advice!
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nate Reply:
August 26th, 2010 at 8:09 am
I’m with you scott. A lot of my friends refer to me as an expert. I would never use or apply the term myself. Someday when I’m like 60 years old and my head is truly a beer encyclopedia, maybe I’ll accept the term more. But then I’ll probably be too cranky to care.
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https://www.lostinthebeeraisle.com refers to these people as Beer Douches. I have met a couple, and I must say they irritate me a lot. It’s like they have lost the capacity to learn. I hope I never get to that point.
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beer_scientist Reply:
August 25th, 2010 at 10:29 am
My personal feeling is that people cease learning when they stop listening…they love to hear themselves talk.
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The beer know it all. I’ve met this guy several times. I’ll remember gaffs from people who were supposed beer experts talking about Belgian beers and calling them trappists when they weren’t. But the biggest one that stands in my mind is when I worked at Whole Foods. This guy, who always drank Alesmith, came into the bar area and had a bottle of beer. I poured it and asked what he thought because I hadn’t had that beer. When I called it beer he gave me the correct what you’re saying look and said it’s not just beer. At that point I correct and asked how that Ale was. At that point he tried to correct me by saying that it was a stout. The way he said it was matter of fact and like he was a teacher helping his slow pupil. His wife was right there to witness his greatness in that moment.
The moment didn’t last long because I got irritated enough to point out to him that he was wrong and that it was a Belgian style Grand Cru and not a stout. His attitude made me mad enough to say something. Most of the time, I let stuff go and I will readily admit when I don’t know something…but that one had to be dealt with.
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nate Reply:
August 26th, 2010 at 8:11 am
Yeah, they have to be dealt with at time…a lot of it comes down to attitude. The know it all in my story wasn’t being a jerk, so I just waited till he lef tthe scene and pointed the lady in the right direction. That dude in your story had it coming.
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Haha that’s a great story. I would have a hard time not laughing out loud listening to that joker.
When I was building my all-grain system I cut the tops off my kegs to find old nasty bud residue inside. It stunk pretty bad, and right on queue my buddy (who is actually a real smart dude) yelled out “Ewww fermented beer!” Some of the other guys shook their heads agreeably. My homebrewing friend and I just looked at each other and smiled.
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That is so funny. I tend to take way too much time when I am shopping for beer and always find myself listening to the other customers. I love to look at a customer and try and guess what he or she is going to buy. Where is this store? I would love to go in and ask some questions.
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I love the stories but I love more that I haven’t run across it personally.
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